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Trinity Sunday - not for sissies

posted Monday, 7 June 2004

In his sermon yesterday, my pastor quoted from an official Methodist worship planning site:

"Trinity Sunday is not a Sunday for theological and spiritual "sissies"! There are few who are either so doctrinaire or so thick-skinned that the church's effort at inclusive language leaves them unaffected in "pre-1970s" exclusive language. Most leaders in the church have abandoned trinitarian language as they would abandon a field littered with land mines. Political correctness, combined with a desire to keep the Christian faith "accessible to seekers" (and to the faithful too), has led to an almost wholesale abandonment of liturgical reference to the triune God and to an avoidance of preaching the life of the triune God in whom we live and move and have our being."

He preached a good sermon on the Trinity, though it was a little light on the Holy Spirit.  I told him after the service how much I liked it, and he laughed and said, "I thought you'd like it."  Before he started preaching, I was a little nervous that the whole sermon would be a refutation of the formula Father, Son and Holy Spirit.  See, our male (senior) pastor is more "theologically liberal" than our female pastor, or however you want to phrase it.  

Anyway, he preached on the necessity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit language.  I was very surprised.  He said he knew he might offend some people, and I imagine he did.  He explained that the language is not patriarchal, that it does not claim God is male, and that it speaks of the essential nature of God as being-in-relation in a way that other formulations fail to do.  The rest of the sermon carried on the theme of God as a communion of love who calls us to be in communion with God and with our neighbors.  I'll link to it whenever the church gets around to posting it.

So why isn't it sexist?  I wrote about it last year in this post.  Reading it over again, I'm not sure I would use the phrase "mutual love, equality and cooperation."  Perhaps equality has too many confusing connotations in today's context.  And I need a deeper word than cooperation. 

But this year, I want to say that the way to deeper understanding of the Trinity for mainline Protestants is not through debates over inclusive language, but through good sermons and solid teaching on the Triune God.  When I was a teenager, I was absolutely against any kind of Father language.  When I'd argue with people about it, no one ever talked about the Trinity in a way that emphasized God's communion of love.  They either agreed with me that it was sexist, or used sexist arguments to refute me.  I didn't have a decent understanding of it until seminary.  I heard someone say that for mainline Protestants, seminary has become a place of catechesis.  And that's sad. 

Of course, women who've been abused by their fathers or father figures might not be convinced by sermons or teachings, which is where pastoral counseling and the caring support of the congregation are called for - not in order to convince them of the language, but in order to live the language.  "As the Father has loved me, so I have loved you; abide in my love."  Or as Thomas says, "we are so tightly knit to the Son that the Father's love for his Son is his love for us, and the Son's responding love for his Father becomes our hymn of praise and thanksgiving.  This love is indeed the Holy Spirit himself, and thus when we hear the words of forgiveness, and when we pray in Christ to our Father, we are literally inspired." 

I don't know if hearing that would have been an "aha!" moment for my radical feminist, Christian teenage self, or if a woman who's been abused by her father could hear this without pain.  But this still-feminist, radical Christian wishes she would've had a chance, and hopes my sisters in Christ who heard heard my pastor's sermon heard a message of love and not of exclusion.




1. a reader left...
Monday, 7 June 2004 1:23 pm

Amen, sister. Nice to see a radical feminist not getting taken in by a caricature of Trinitarian language, but appreciating the real thing.

Clifton D. Healy [chealy5@yahoo.com]


2. a reader left...
Monday, 7 June 2004 4:29 pm

Barna has this survey information to offer.

Holy Spirit

A majority (61%) agree that the Holy Spirit is a symbol of God’s presence or power but is not a living entity. (2001)
Among the segments of the population more likely than others to deny the existence of the Holy Spirit as a living entity are Catholics (73%), non-Christians (68%), and non-whites (68%). (2001)
A majority of all born again Christians reject the existence of the Holy Spirit (52%). (2001)
Jesus Christ

More than two out of every five adults (44%) believe that Jesus Christ lived on earth He committed sins. (2004)
Across ethnicity, 48% of Hispanics, 44% of whites, and 40% of blacks agree with the idea that "when He lived on earth, Jesus Christ was human and committed sins, like other people." (2004)
39% of Americans say that Jesus Christ was crucified, but He never had a physical resurrection. Nearly the same proportion of born again Christians (35%) embrace this thinking. (1997)
Satan

In 2004 three out of five adults (60%) say that the devil, or Satan, is not a living being but is a symbol of evil, compared to 58% in 2001.
In 2004 50% of born again Christians deny Satan's existence compared with 45% in 2001.
Slightly more than seven out of ten Catholics (73%) say the devil is non-existant and only a symbol of evil. (2004).
In 2004 men emerge as slightly less likely than woman to believe that Satan is just a symbol of evil (60% to 61%), compared with 61% to 55%, respectively, in 2001.
Angels

Four out of five people (81%) believe that angels exist and influence people's lives. (2000)

You think this is accurate? Even if it is not wholly accurate, it is a curious addition to your thinking. What is pop-christianity now? I often hear in the choir at my church that the doctrine of the Trinity is useless, hard to understand and unnecessary. But they are willing to believe in angels. So, there you go.

AngloBaptist


3. a reader left...
Monday, 7 June 2004 11:05 pm

You know, I've never understood the angels thing. Maybe especially since I knew a woman who thought that angels were protecting her marijuana garden. (She got busted anyway.) But actually, considering the general disbelief in the Holy Spirit, it occurs to me that people are assigning to angels the actions that have traditionally been attributed to that Person. Hmmm.

Camassia [camassia1@yahoo.com]


4. a reader left...
Friday, 11 June 2004 10:41 am

I've never understood the angels thing, either. But there's another thing I don't understand about polls. On the one hand, there's this poll here: http://www.pollingreport.com/religion.htm, in which the respondents sound like a bunch of fundies. 60% believe in a literal flood of the entire world; 61% believe that the world was literally created in six days. And on the other hand, there's the survey cited by AngloBaptist, which makes me a relative theological conservative, since most people in the survey are saying that they don't believe in the Holy Spirit, and a large minority say that Jesus committed sins, and that he wasn't physically resurrected. Are these surveys sampling anything like the same people?

Lynn Gazis-Sax [lynngnews@alsirat.com]


5. a reader left...
Friday, 11 June 2004 11:38 pm

If you'd like to read something slightly different, and possibly also slightly heretical;
Trinity Sunday>

For something clearly heretical, that you might appreciate anyway;
Our Mother, Who Art in Heaven

Jake [jake333@hotmail.com]


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